Etang Tissier is a new lake recently opened lake in France containing carp to over 45 lb. Carp fishing in France
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Monday 30 March 2009
Saturday 28 March 2009
carp fishing in France
Everyone is searching for that carp fishing in France that has not been fished, due to the carp being easy to catch. Ive found a web site of a lake that is owned by an english company, but has only allowed freinds to fish until this year. The owner does not know how many carp are in the lake, but does know it has produced fish to over 45 lb. the venue has only recently opened to the public, the first anglers managed 260 carp to 40 lb. In addition the lake owner has added catfish to 40 lb.
We think this is a bit of a runs water, with a good chance of a big carp, the lake in question is known as etang Tissier. Their old web site address is carp fishing france
We think this is a bit of a runs water, with a good chance of a big carp, the lake in question is known as etang Tissier. Their old web site address is carp fishing france
Friday 11 July 2008
Carp fishing forum
You will be glad to know that the long awaited www.talk-carp.co.uk is now up and running. Its not just another carp forum, but a directory, a place to sell your fishing tackle or place wanted adds. This forum is a total resource for carp anglers with articles, advice on rigs, tackle and other equipment for sale, tackle trader, new releases from the bait world and and area to advertize your carp fishing business. The carp fishing forum can be found at www.talk-carp.co.uk
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Thursday 13 March 2008
carp fishing in France at Brittany Mill lakes
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Brittany Mill Lake’s in France
General Information – carp fishing in France.
The monthly trips abroad to write this series have been in the same breath both tiring and rewarding, many miles have been covered, so many that my clapped out fishing van is on her last legs. I thought I was going to lose her as the garage doors slammed behind the rust bucket for a recent MOT. I was overjoyed when the van doctor rang and told me that she is ill but we can save her at a cost of £334 with the best treatment that money can buy, the old dear is worth it, trout pellet smell and all.
However this left me in a bit of a dilemma as I had every intention of fishing a commercial venue in France over the said period. Not wanting a miniscule problem such as no transport stand in the way, an all-inclusive trip would need to be arranged. A long hard search through the pages of the angling publications magazines was essential to narrow the search. I was tired of driving and yearned for something a bit diverse and somewhat special for you over the change of year period. I was looking to write an article that would keep you on the edge of your seat, a bit like a good book that you cannot put down, however I don’t have the ability for that therefore will write in the same manner that I do every month; the chosen lake needs no introduction as it has been on the European carp scene for a number of years. However the complex has had a face-lift, with the stock, ascetics and holiday packages being vastly improved. Andrea was keen to show me the before and after photographs, and I must say that the new owners have made some major improvements in all areas.
The package I chose could be described as a fly, pick up and provide service i.e. the flight is arranged, you are collected by the lake owner at Dinard airport driven to the lake where the bivvy is pre-assembled and all of the other tackle placed for you. All that I needed to take was 3 reels, 3 buzzers, 3 bobbins, sleeping bag, rig bag and a change of camouflage, everything else is onsite. Apart from the body and hand luggage search the flight went with minimum delay; the forceps in my hand luggage were on the verge of being confiscated, I thought I was going to lose them as the airport inspectors quizzed me as to why I was carrying such a lethal weapon. Sarcasm is the lowest form of whit and I shouldn’t jest in this day and age, its good to see that security is on the ball.
Air travel has got to be the way forward to visit lakes in France, for the first time ever I was not fatigued on arrival. I didn’t need a couple of days to recover from the road journey, resulting in more energy to locate the fish! In addition I felt fresh at the end of the session when landing back in good old Blighty.
Swims and features
Due to the lake being over 300 years old it has had ample time to mature; surrounded by dense mixed forest with lots of the trees of the sweet chestnut and conifer variety. Many extend beyond the margins dropping their fruits into the water; on several occasions carp were seen unsettling the bottom nearby. Maybe the carp were feasting on the fruits of the fall i.e. sweet chestnuts and pine seeds?
The dog bone shaped lake is said to be 12 acres and somewhat larger than some venues that I have fished of a comparable stated acreage. In my estimations I would say that this lake owner has his lake estimations correct.
The 12 comfortable swims are well positioned, each being strategically located to give the angler plenty of water and features to fish without encroaching on each other. There are many spots amid swims that lend themselves to the cautious stalking approach.
A quiet country road passes by the mill house and facilities along the Eastern Damn embankment, this being the deepest part of the lake. The channel that parallels is one of many interesting features, it was from this gully that I enticed a number of 30 and 40 lb carp; a bait placed near to the bend in the rod sign brought many takes, cryptic clue but easily deciphered and seen on arrival.
The middle swims overlook an area of numerous features, from rich brown silt to large gravel patches along the far margin. Don’t neglect the overhanging bushes as I spooked several carp whilst passing in the boat.
The shallower top end has a number of hard-bottomed areas near to the lily beds. A trap was placed on these during the first few nights before moving to the damn swims. I was averaging a couple of mid thirties per 24 hours. Many fish can be seen from the branches of the old oak tree, the ladder that is leant against it enables easy climbing to gain a good vantage point.
4 x 40s, Monster Moggy and Mervin the Sturgeon (aka fight night)
Throughout the series I have worked hard to find the approach to suit the chosen venue and Brittany Mill was no different, when the approach and location are correct, results will come: I was averaging 2 thirties per 24 hour period whilst at the shallower top end of the lake, but could not help thinking that I could do better. 2 days into the session my mind kept wandering to past stalking sessions, the creeping amongst the undergrowth with a lobworm impaled on the hook, oh how I enjoy this approach. Swim hopping and stalking has several advantages: it helps in location due to visiting a number of swims, it is probably the most exciting of methods and it can be extremely productive both in the UK and on mainland Europe.
So there I am with a stalk on the brain, the tribal was adorned and 2 rods prepared, I was off in the boat to the first of several areas that had been pre noted, those areas that lend themselves to such tactics. The delicate deliberate approach was adopted, laying low, creeping with finesse like a sniper approaching the enemy. As I crawled into position I peered through the bank side foliage and noticed several carp uprooting the rich brown silt. Not wanting to move in fear of spooking them the worm was gently lowered into position. The carp’s tails dimpled the surface as they buried their heads in search of food items, and slowly nearing my hook bait. The bait was too succulent to be ignored, the float slid across the surface, my heart felt like it was in my mouth as the beats increased, I struck into nothing, what a wasted chance! I had messed up pulling the hook from the carp’s mouth.
After giving myself a dig in the ribs through my failed effort, I retired to safe haven under the bushes, awaiting their return. And that they did, this time closer to the lilies to the right, slightly out of reach of the float. An alternate approach consisted of crushed maple 8 in a bag with a small maple boilie on the hair. This was lobbed to the edge of the decaying pads and fished with a slack line. As I sat out of site, out of mind in the side brush the bait runner churned as a carp bow waved towards the security of the lilies, the rod took on its battle curve. The sling was hoisted and scales registered 36.2 oz of pristine mirror and a fish I would not have caught if I had not taken the stalking opportunity.
There seemed to be more fish in this area than in the area we were bivvied up in, a quick gathering of the gear and Shep and I were in position with 3 rods each. Within an hour of arrival the left alarm signalled a slow laborious take, the signs of a good fish, the powerful fight that ensued tested the provided rods. As the carp was engulfed in the net I estimated it to be around the mid 40 lb mark. However the scales told a different story as the big framed mirror settled the needle at 41 lb 4 oz, not as big as estimated but my first 40 of the session.
Whist I had disturbed the swim it was an opportunity to re-cast to the carp that were shouldering within 10 metres of the damn embankment. 30 minutes passed before Andrea the lady of the lake and onsite owner’s wife delivered lunch. Within minutes of her leaving the swim another take was struck into, lady luck was on my side as I netted a 44 lb mirror. Although the fish took some time to land, the story has been cut short due to wanting to get the remainder of the day’s results in this short article.
As the sun descended I was able to land the fourth good fish of the day, it being a 33.6 lb mirror.
The sun glistened its final rays of the day, my gut feeling indicated a night of arm aching action. As I sat reminiscing of the day’s events one of the Damn rods let out a single bleep, eyes focused on the LED as it gave a second and third bleep. Rather strange I thought, as most of the takes had been slow, ponderous but hittable, this was different. As I lifted the rod it was almost wrenched from my hands, the clutch was slipping as the creature on the other end decided to strip over 100 yards of line. I felt powerless and was loosing control, my suspicions were now gearing towards a catfish, it seemed too beefy to be a carp.
At times it sulked on the bottom, what a stubborn immovable creature, only maximum pressure would get it mobile. I was not going to let it regain energy by allowing a stationary breather. Each time I got it moving it would power off up the lake taking half a spool of line with it. After 50 minutes I was wondering how much longer the size 6 barbless hook would hold. After what seemed like a decade, the catfish was seen within 10 yards of the bank, maximum load was applied and the moggy neared the 50-inch net. There was no engulfing this beast; it was more of a slide and scoop to fold its body in the mesh.
As we unhooked it, the lake owner arrived to lend a helping hand. None of us possessed big enough scales to weigh the fish; therefore he suggested that we use his bathroom scales. A long shot but it just might work! The idea being to stand on the scales then again with the catfish in my arms, whereupon we could extract my body weight from the weight when I was cradling the fish! As I stood on the scales the crowd hoisted the monster into my arms, as the weight of the catfish was slowly released my legs started to buckle under the strain. The weight was read, I expected the helpers to immediately take the fish from my grasp. No such luck as they insisted on some happy snaps of a potemtial hernia and me! We settled for a weight of 87 lb, a personal best catfish caught on carp rods and methods.
Within half an hour of the monster moggy, line started to leave the baitrunner at a rapid rate of knots. This time I was connected to a rather large carp that also took some time to beat, the scales settled at 45 lb 12 oz the third 40 lb plus carp within several hours.
Due to fatigue I was silently hoping that I could now relax into the soothing properties of my sleeping bag and have a recuperating nap. I had just started to watch the carp crash on the back of my eyelids when the buzzer had me up and into another fish, it didn’t feel too big. The fish was only 20 yards from the bank when all hell broke loose and it turned to take over 150 yards of line from the reel, this was whilst applying maximum pressure. I stood in awe, there was nothing I could do but glare at the spool in disbelief, the only other animal I had ever hooked with such power was a cow, but that’s another story. At this point I could see the silver of the spool base and had no choice but to clamber into the boat and clamp down solid. The fish towed the 12-foot rigid boat to the top of the lake before turning and heading towards the fibreglass dinghy, causing me to franticly wind to regain control. 50 minutes had now passed; my body was trembling due to the catfish, the numerous big carp and now 50 minutes of this beast! I had no choice but to hand the rod over to Shep, I needed to regain energy. During the next hour we passed the rod between each other until the huge head of a mighty sturgeon named Mervin slid head first into the long mesh of the net. The battle had lasted close to 2 hours and the fish was landed in a swim 200 yards from where it had been hooked. Again the fish was too heavy to be weighed however the lake owner informed us that it had been stocked at 72 lbs! I wasn’t going to climb on the bathroom scales again! Now you can see why I named it fight night! Within several hours we had several mid 30s, 3 carp over 40 lbs, a moggy of 87 lbs and sturgeon of approximately 70 lbs!
Two days later Shep had a take from an open water rod, as he struck, 70 lb of shear muscle cleared the surface, Mervin the sturgeon had put in a second appearance. The fight was pretty similar to our first encounter, but not quite as long. After an hour and fifteen minute lakeside tour the head slide towards the bottom of the net, what a creature! Due to having caught him 48 hours previous I took the opportunity to get some day shots.
Baits, tactics
My normal choice of crumbed maple 8 with a matching or pineapple enticed the majority of takes, this combination accounting for at least 100 carp in the last 8 weeks with approximately 35 of them being over 30 lbs and 6 x 40s. When conditions and feeding intensity improved loose feed was increased and when feeding activity reduced I experimented with pastes and some of the onsite carp pellets. It is a rounded pellet that I have not come across, they do look the business and do not dissolve in water but go soft and retain their shape. Similar in appearance to an 8 mm boilie, they are different and effective! They are introduced in large quantities during the winter months therefore a known food source to the carp.
Since the release of Korda hybrid I have used it in the majority of my fishing and believe it is a leap forward in rig length material. The flouro carbon stiff outer naturally forces the hook bait away from the lead and makes the lead and rigging less obtrusive. In addition to the press away effect an inch or two of the flouro can be peeled back to the braided inner. Quarter of an inch of this flouro is left to form a bend effect at the hook. This not only presents better hooking properties but also protects the carps mouth against sharp braid. I have seen cut mouths and flanks so many times that I no longer use fine braided hook lengths or braided mainline without employing a protective sheaf i.e. tubing.
Although bait boats are allowed I opted not to use one, preferring to cast the small PVA meshed parcels to showing fish or features. A scan of the entire lake with sonar early on in the session helped build a picture of the lakes topography in most areas. The idea being that if the carp moved I would be aware of the features in the area that they moved too, this eradicates the need to row over showing fish. Occasionally the onsite boat was used to place baits, but the time on the water was kept to a minimum, I have noticed that when boats are used in shallow water the fish often spook.
Fish Stock
In addition to the large amount of big carp present there has been recent stockings of 30/40 lb plus fish and Mervin the sturgeon. There are a number of catfish present with at least 2 of them surpassing the 100 lb mark.
There are few venues that can boast an average size of over 30 lbs, in fact I managed to subdue 16 fish over 30 lbs of which 4 were good 40 s to 45.12 oz and my average was calculated to be 36 lb!!
The lake record for both common and mirror carp is over 50 lbs. The lake record common is an immaculate fish and one I would love to cradle, during the last 2 days of the session I switched tactics to boilie’s over hemp in an attempt to focus on the large commons, but failed in the quest, maybe next time.
Facilities
The food package is encompassed in the fly/provide package and must say that it is more suited to a high class restaurant! My mouth was watering every evening as I took my seat at 1745 hours for the coming delights. The starter was brilliant, the main meal was awesome and the pudding was difficult to consume, without doubt some of the best food I have ever tasted. I have always classed my good lady wife to be good in the kitchen (cooking I mean), but nothing in comparison to what is on offer at Brittany Mill Lakes.
The onsite toilets and showers are situated within a modernised block; they are spotless and suitable for the other half. Steve and family have achieved their aim of a carp fishing holiday venue rather than just a weeks fishing, I take my real tree cap off to them.
Conclusion
As stated in the first article of this series I will endeavour to constructively criticize all venues, however constructive criticism for this lake/package is difficult to find. I will say that I came back a few kilograms heavier due to the gourmet food. Having informed Andrea of my criticism, she promptly informed me that she also provided for specific dietary requirements.
When Steve set about achieving his dream of purchasing lakes in France he asked himself one question, “ What would he like from a fishing holiday?” He then set about his aim with the all-inclusive fly and provide package. From an outsider’s point of view, the package sets precedence!
If the approach that I have outlined above is followed, the majority of anglers visiting this lake should catch, put the effort in and the rewards will come.
I wish to return to Brittany Mill lakes when the second lake is opened but in the mean time I am searching for other venues to visit, therefore if you believe your lake is worthy of inclusion in my approach to commercial venues series don’t hesitate to get in touch, but bare in mind if its not up to scratch I will say so in a constructive manner!
Coming soon! Etang Neuilly, a down to earth approach on a Carp and Coarse Fishing Holidays venue.
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Brittany Mill Lake’s in France
General Information – carp fishing in France.
The monthly trips abroad to write this series have been in the same breath both tiring and rewarding, many miles have been covered, so many that my clapped out fishing van is on her last legs. I thought I was going to lose her as the garage doors slammed behind the rust bucket for a recent MOT. I was overjoyed when the van doctor rang and told me that she is ill but we can save her at a cost of £334 with the best treatment that money can buy, the old dear is worth it, trout pellet smell and all.
However this left me in a bit of a dilemma as I had every intention of fishing a commercial venue in France over the said period. Not wanting a miniscule problem such as no transport stand in the way, an all-inclusive trip would need to be arranged. A long hard search through the pages of the angling publications magazines was essential to narrow the search. I was tired of driving and yearned for something a bit diverse and somewhat special for you over the change of year period. I was looking to write an article that would keep you on the edge of your seat, a bit like a good book that you cannot put down, however I don’t have the ability for that therefore will write in the same manner that I do every month; the chosen lake needs no introduction as it has been on the European carp scene for a number of years. However the complex has had a face-lift, with the stock, ascetics and holiday packages being vastly improved. Andrea was keen to show me the before and after photographs, and I must say that the new owners have made some major improvements in all areas.
The package I chose could be described as a fly, pick up and provide service i.e. the flight is arranged, you are collected by the lake owner at Dinard airport driven to the lake where the bivvy is pre-assembled and all of the other tackle placed for you. All that I needed to take was 3 reels, 3 buzzers, 3 bobbins, sleeping bag, rig bag and a change of camouflage, everything else is onsite. Apart from the body and hand luggage search the flight went with minimum delay; the forceps in my hand luggage were on the verge of being confiscated, I thought I was going to lose them as the airport inspectors quizzed me as to why I was carrying such a lethal weapon. Sarcasm is the lowest form of whit and I shouldn’t jest in this day and age, its good to see that security is on the ball.
Air travel has got to be the way forward to visit lakes in France, for the first time ever I was not fatigued on arrival. I didn’t need a couple of days to recover from the road journey, resulting in more energy to locate the fish! In addition I felt fresh at the end of the session when landing back in good old Blighty.
Swims and features
Due to the lake being over 300 years old it has had ample time to mature; surrounded by dense mixed forest with lots of the trees of the sweet chestnut and conifer variety. Many extend beyond the margins dropping their fruits into the water; on several occasions carp were seen unsettling the bottom nearby. Maybe the carp were feasting on the fruits of the fall i.e. sweet chestnuts and pine seeds?
The dog bone shaped lake is said to be 12 acres and somewhat larger than some venues that I have fished of a comparable stated acreage. In my estimations I would say that this lake owner has his lake estimations correct.
The 12 comfortable swims are well positioned, each being strategically located to give the angler plenty of water and features to fish without encroaching on each other. There are many spots amid swims that lend themselves to the cautious stalking approach.
A quiet country road passes by the mill house and facilities along the Eastern Damn embankment, this being the deepest part of the lake. The channel that parallels is one of many interesting features, it was from this gully that I enticed a number of 30 and 40 lb carp; a bait placed near to the bend in the rod sign brought many takes, cryptic clue but easily deciphered and seen on arrival.
The middle swims overlook an area of numerous features, from rich brown silt to large gravel patches along the far margin. Don’t neglect the overhanging bushes as I spooked several carp whilst passing in the boat.
The shallower top end has a number of hard-bottomed areas near to the lily beds. A trap was placed on these during the first few nights before moving to the damn swims. I was averaging a couple of mid thirties per 24 hours. Many fish can be seen from the branches of the old oak tree, the ladder that is leant against it enables easy climbing to gain a good vantage point.
4 x 40s, Monster Moggy and Mervin the Sturgeon (aka fight night)
Throughout the series I have worked hard to find the approach to suit the chosen venue and Brittany Mill was no different, when the approach and location are correct, results will come: I was averaging 2 thirties per 24 hour period whilst at the shallower top end of the lake, but could not help thinking that I could do better. 2 days into the session my mind kept wandering to past stalking sessions, the creeping amongst the undergrowth with a lobworm impaled on the hook, oh how I enjoy this approach. Swim hopping and stalking has several advantages: it helps in location due to visiting a number of swims, it is probably the most exciting of methods and it can be extremely productive both in the UK and on mainland Europe.
So there I am with a stalk on the brain, the tribal was adorned and 2 rods prepared, I was off in the boat to the first of several areas that had been pre noted, those areas that lend themselves to such tactics. The delicate deliberate approach was adopted, laying low, creeping with finesse like a sniper approaching the enemy. As I crawled into position I peered through the bank side foliage and noticed several carp uprooting the rich brown silt. Not wanting to move in fear of spooking them the worm was gently lowered into position. The carp’s tails dimpled the surface as they buried their heads in search of food items, and slowly nearing my hook bait. The bait was too succulent to be ignored, the float slid across the surface, my heart felt like it was in my mouth as the beats increased, I struck into nothing, what a wasted chance! I had messed up pulling the hook from the carp’s mouth.
After giving myself a dig in the ribs through my failed effort, I retired to safe haven under the bushes, awaiting their return. And that they did, this time closer to the lilies to the right, slightly out of reach of the float. An alternate approach consisted of crushed maple 8 in a bag with a small maple boilie on the hair. This was lobbed to the edge of the decaying pads and fished with a slack line. As I sat out of site, out of mind in the side brush the bait runner churned as a carp bow waved towards the security of the lilies, the rod took on its battle curve. The sling was hoisted and scales registered 36.2 oz of pristine mirror and a fish I would not have caught if I had not taken the stalking opportunity.
There seemed to be more fish in this area than in the area we were bivvied up in, a quick gathering of the gear and Shep and I were in position with 3 rods each. Within an hour of arrival the left alarm signalled a slow laborious take, the signs of a good fish, the powerful fight that ensued tested the provided rods. As the carp was engulfed in the net I estimated it to be around the mid 40 lb mark. However the scales told a different story as the big framed mirror settled the needle at 41 lb 4 oz, not as big as estimated but my first 40 of the session.
Whist I had disturbed the swim it was an opportunity to re-cast to the carp that were shouldering within 10 metres of the damn embankment. 30 minutes passed before Andrea the lady of the lake and onsite owner’s wife delivered lunch. Within minutes of her leaving the swim another take was struck into, lady luck was on my side as I netted a 44 lb mirror. Although the fish took some time to land, the story has been cut short due to wanting to get the remainder of the day’s results in this short article.
As the sun descended I was able to land the fourth good fish of the day, it being a 33.6 lb mirror.
The sun glistened its final rays of the day, my gut feeling indicated a night of arm aching action. As I sat reminiscing of the day’s events one of the Damn rods let out a single bleep, eyes focused on the LED as it gave a second and third bleep. Rather strange I thought, as most of the takes had been slow, ponderous but hittable, this was different. As I lifted the rod it was almost wrenched from my hands, the clutch was slipping as the creature on the other end decided to strip over 100 yards of line. I felt powerless and was loosing control, my suspicions were now gearing towards a catfish, it seemed too beefy to be a carp.
At times it sulked on the bottom, what a stubborn immovable creature, only maximum pressure would get it mobile. I was not going to let it regain energy by allowing a stationary breather. Each time I got it moving it would power off up the lake taking half a spool of line with it. After 50 minutes I was wondering how much longer the size 6 barbless hook would hold. After what seemed like a decade, the catfish was seen within 10 yards of the bank, maximum load was applied and the moggy neared the 50-inch net. There was no engulfing this beast; it was more of a slide and scoop to fold its body in the mesh.
As we unhooked it, the lake owner arrived to lend a helping hand. None of us possessed big enough scales to weigh the fish; therefore he suggested that we use his bathroom scales. A long shot but it just might work! The idea being to stand on the scales then again with the catfish in my arms, whereupon we could extract my body weight from the weight when I was cradling the fish! As I stood on the scales the crowd hoisted the monster into my arms, as the weight of the catfish was slowly released my legs started to buckle under the strain. The weight was read, I expected the helpers to immediately take the fish from my grasp. No such luck as they insisted on some happy snaps of a potemtial hernia and me! We settled for a weight of 87 lb, a personal best catfish caught on carp rods and methods.
Within half an hour of the monster moggy, line started to leave the baitrunner at a rapid rate of knots. This time I was connected to a rather large carp that also took some time to beat, the scales settled at 45 lb 12 oz the third 40 lb plus carp within several hours.
Due to fatigue I was silently hoping that I could now relax into the soothing properties of my sleeping bag and have a recuperating nap. I had just started to watch the carp crash on the back of my eyelids when the buzzer had me up and into another fish, it didn’t feel too big. The fish was only 20 yards from the bank when all hell broke loose and it turned to take over 150 yards of line from the reel, this was whilst applying maximum pressure. I stood in awe, there was nothing I could do but glare at the spool in disbelief, the only other animal I had ever hooked with such power was a cow, but that’s another story. At this point I could see the silver of the spool base and had no choice but to clamber into the boat and clamp down solid. The fish towed the 12-foot rigid boat to the top of the lake before turning and heading towards the fibreglass dinghy, causing me to franticly wind to regain control. 50 minutes had now passed; my body was trembling due to the catfish, the numerous big carp and now 50 minutes of this beast! I had no choice but to hand the rod over to Shep, I needed to regain energy. During the next hour we passed the rod between each other until the huge head of a mighty sturgeon named Mervin slid head first into the long mesh of the net. The battle had lasted close to 2 hours and the fish was landed in a swim 200 yards from where it had been hooked. Again the fish was too heavy to be weighed however the lake owner informed us that it had been stocked at 72 lbs! I wasn’t going to climb on the bathroom scales again! Now you can see why I named it fight night! Within several hours we had several mid 30s, 3 carp over 40 lbs, a moggy of 87 lbs and sturgeon of approximately 70 lbs!
Two days later Shep had a take from an open water rod, as he struck, 70 lb of shear muscle cleared the surface, Mervin the sturgeon had put in a second appearance. The fight was pretty similar to our first encounter, but not quite as long. After an hour and fifteen minute lakeside tour the head slide towards the bottom of the net, what a creature! Due to having caught him 48 hours previous I took the opportunity to get some day shots.
Baits, tactics
My normal choice of crumbed maple 8 with a matching or pineapple enticed the majority of takes, this combination accounting for at least 100 carp in the last 8 weeks with approximately 35 of them being over 30 lbs and 6 x 40s. When conditions and feeding intensity improved loose feed was increased and when feeding activity reduced I experimented with pastes and some of the onsite carp pellets. It is a rounded pellet that I have not come across, they do look the business and do not dissolve in water but go soft and retain their shape. Similar in appearance to an 8 mm boilie, they are different and effective! They are introduced in large quantities during the winter months therefore a known food source to the carp.
Since the release of Korda hybrid I have used it in the majority of my fishing and believe it is a leap forward in rig length material. The flouro carbon stiff outer naturally forces the hook bait away from the lead and makes the lead and rigging less obtrusive. In addition to the press away effect an inch or two of the flouro can be peeled back to the braided inner. Quarter of an inch of this flouro is left to form a bend effect at the hook. This not only presents better hooking properties but also protects the carps mouth against sharp braid. I have seen cut mouths and flanks so many times that I no longer use fine braided hook lengths or braided mainline without employing a protective sheaf i.e. tubing.
Although bait boats are allowed I opted not to use one, preferring to cast the small PVA meshed parcels to showing fish or features. A scan of the entire lake with sonar early on in the session helped build a picture of the lakes topography in most areas. The idea being that if the carp moved I would be aware of the features in the area that they moved too, this eradicates the need to row over showing fish. Occasionally the onsite boat was used to place baits, but the time on the water was kept to a minimum, I have noticed that when boats are used in shallow water the fish often spook.
Fish Stock
In addition to the large amount of big carp present there has been recent stockings of 30/40 lb plus fish and Mervin the sturgeon. There are a number of catfish present with at least 2 of them surpassing the 100 lb mark.
There are few venues that can boast an average size of over 30 lbs, in fact I managed to subdue 16 fish over 30 lbs of which 4 were good 40 s to 45.12 oz and my average was calculated to be 36 lb!!
The lake record for both common and mirror carp is over 50 lbs. The lake record common is an immaculate fish and one I would love to cradle, during the last 2 days of the session I switched tactics to boilie’s over hemp in an attempt to focus on the large commons, but failed in the quest, maybe next time.
Facilities
The food package is encompassed in the fly/provide package and must say that it is more suited to a high class restaurant! My mouth was watering every evening as I took my seat at 1745 hours for the coming delights. The starter was brilliant, the main meal was awesome and the pudding was difficult to consume, without doubt some of the best food I have ever tasted. I have always classed my good lady wife to be good in the kitchen (cooking I mean), but nothing in comparison to what is on offer at Brittany Mill Lakes.
The onsite toilets and showers are situated within a modernised block; they are spotless and suitable for the other half. Steve and family have achieved their aim of a carp fishing holiday venue rather than just a weeks fishing, I take my real tree cap off to them.
Conclusion
As stated in the first article of this series I will endeavour to constructively criticize all venues, however constructive criticism for this lake/package is difficult to find. I will say that I came back a few kilograms heavier due to the gourmet food. Having informed Andrea of my criticism, she promptly informed me that she also provided for specific dietary requirements.
When Steve set about achieving his dream of purchasing lakes in France he asked himself one question, “ What would he like from a fishing holiday?” He then set about his aim with the all-inclusive fly and provide package. From an outsider’s point of view, the package sets precedence!
If the approach that I have outlined above is followed, the majority of anglers visiting this lake should catch, put the effort in and the rewards will come.
I wish to return to Brittany Mill lakes when the second lake is opened but in the mean time I am searching for other venues to visit, therefore if you believe your lake is worthy of inclusion in my approach to commercial venues series don’t hesitate to get in touch, but bare in mind if its not up to scratch I will say so in a constructive manner!
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Wednesday, 9 January 2008
Carp fishing in France
Carp France - VillidonThe A1 towards Paris is an easy drive until you hit the Paris periphique, this being the France equivalent of the M25 car park! The many exits are known as ports, of which there are literally hundreds that zig zag across across the capital. Once in that central zone it is noticeable how the Highway Code suddenly becomes a set of rules to be broken as the cars bob and weave across lanes, they are masochistic drivers! There are a number of other roads that orbit Paris avoiding the periphique, use them when possible. Once the periphique has been circumnavigated the motorways towards the south of France are a fairly straight forward journey.The venue I was heading for is named Lac de Villedon, it nestles amongst rolling country side between Poitiers and Limoge in central France, it is over 100 acres in size and a boat is needed to reach the majority of the swims. Ready for carp fishing in France We arrived late evening consequently it was a bit of a rush to get the gear transferred into the boat and complete the 1 mile journey to an area in which we suspected the majority of carp to be found. During the journey towards the shallower end of the lake a beady eye was kept on the sonar, the average depths were between 3 – 5 feet, it is unlikely to see fish at this depth as they spook to the boat, its more useful to get a feel for the lakes topography which was fairly uniform. As I neared the top end of the lake, as if on cue a carp popped its head above the surface, that’s location sorted! I switched off the electric outboard for a few minutes to sit and observe, watching closely for any further signs. I did see another fish shortly after within the talons of a rather large bird of prey, I believe it was an Osprey that swooped down without a sound and grasped a small carp, literally 150 yards from the boat. I mentioned this to the onsite owner, he said it was a common occurrence to lose carp of up to 7 lb, good job the lake has a healthy stock!Even in France quiet spots are normally goodI found a small area hidden in the woods that was big enough for 2 bivvy’s and within a hundred yards of where I had seen the fish, 20 minutes later the gear was unloaded and set up. The depth to our front was only 3 to 4 feet. Taking a boat across fish in shallow water often spooks them, therefore was a little apprehensive and kept the motor on low speed to minimise disturbance. There were no major features nearby consequently adopted a long line baiting approach, as the name suggests it is the method of placing a long line of bait between a couple of markers in an area where the fish are likely to cross. This stretched for over 100 yards across the main central area and the bait consisted of Mainline essential opal, maple 8 and pellets (see marker floats in photo). 3 out of the 4 rods were staggered along the line and the fourth rod was fished about 40 yards of the baited area, this is often the one that produces the bigger fish, possibly due to them being a little older, wiser and more territorial than the bulk of the stock.The lines were taken out using a 2 person drill i.e. 2 rods at a time, one towed and one rod in the boat. This saves valuable battery power and reduces the amount of journeys back and forth to the baited area especially useful when fishing at distance. My preferred method is to place one rod in the boat with the baited rig hooked to an eye. The person on the bank drops another baited rig into a bait bucket and the boat driver wraps the line around the hand to stop it being pulled out of the bucket. The person on the bank flicks the bail arm open and controls the line coming of the reel as the boat travels towards the left marker, I say left, however it doesn’t really make a difference so long as the rigs are dropped left to right or right to left. I don’t recommend taking the middle rods out first as it is more difficult to avoid the lines when returning to pick up the outer rods/rig. On reaching the desired spot the angler on the bank tightens the line to ensure a direct line to where the first rig will be dropped. Lower the rig at arms length ensuring it does not catch anywhere on the boat and is away from the prop. Once lowered throw a couple of handfuls of bait over. In shallow water such as this it is important to move away from the one that has just been dropped to avoid the prop catching the line. I often do a 180 degree manoeuvre away from it and pull around to the right ready to drop the next rod that is in the boat. The boat is positioned so that it is facing towards the swim so that the rig can be lowered, the rod butt is placed on the seat with the tip over the back of the boat and bail arm open. When going back towards the bank keep an eye on the spool to ensure the line doesn’t wrap and be careful not to entangle the first line you dropped, catching the other line causes a bit of a headache, in the worst case it may result in snapping the propeller shear pins. Carry out the same drill with the other 2 rods but do be aware of the location of the other lines. When the last rod is lowered I often take a bit of an arc back to the swim to avoid catching them.The life jacket is left in the boat so it is at hand through the night, the last thing you want to do is hunt for it in the darkness when a big carp is taking line on a lake with a lot of snags, be prepared!Carp fishing in France can be hecticThe first take came within a couple of hours of arrival, a mere pup of approximately 10 lb, shortly after another and then another, several pups later and I hooked something that felt a little better. The scales went round to over 20 lb not a huge fish but better than the last few. After a tiring night of catching singles and doubles my son hooked something a little better, as he guided the fish towards the net the hook pulled, I saw the fish and it was considerably better than the others we had landed. I have fished a number of lakes where the small carp vastly out number the better stamp of fish, I don’t mind catching them but was convinced the bigger fish were holding back whilst the smaller fish devoured the bed of bait. The theory was backed up by the fact that the low 20 came to the rod fished off the baited area. In order to reduce the chances of picking up the smaller carp I topped up with 20 mm mainline essential opal and fished a double 20 mm hook bait over the top. The essential opal is harder than the maple 8 and a bit more of a mouthful, the double 20 mm hook baits would make it a little more difficult for the smaller fish to contend with. Sure you will still pick up the odd pup but not nearly as many. At about 1200 hrs the rod fished of the baited area was away, as I played the fish it tail waved in the shallow water, it was clearly a better fish, on the scales it weighed more than I estimated at just over 39 lbs. Not a bad result and only 20 hours into a 60 hour session, again it fell to the rod fished away from the baited area, is there something in it? During the next 24 hours the action was quite consistent with fewer small fish and a bigger average with approximately 6 of the 20 or so carp being over 20 lb.Looking for carpAs I sat watching the water I noticed a few carp head and shoulder 700 yards down the lake towards the middles and 200 yards to the right of my 2 friends, Terry and Aron. They had landed a number of small carp but their average size was somewhat bigger than mine, with a number over 20 lbs. Terry had a couple of 30s plus a catfish and a sturgeon. Within 30 minutes the gear was pilled into the boat and a full load was being transported to a small grassed area 150 yards to the right of Terry. It made sense to get closer to them as we were leaving in the same mini bus early the following morning. When moving swims whilst using a boat I prefer to collapse the gear and place it in the boat rather than pack everything back into rod holdalls and bags, my Ultimate 4 rod pod is left set up i.e. with delkims and bobbins affixed. The rods are laid on top and secured by the weight of the sleeping bag. This way it takes literally minutes to pick the rods out of the boat and place them on the pod when the next destination is reached; moving by boat is quick and easy if some prior thought is put into the loading.The move took less than 40 minutes and the rods were out, rather than risk spooking the fish I cast small bags to the general area. An hour passed before the warble of the delkim had my son pounce towards my rods like a galloping gazelle, he hit the fish and played it half way in before handing it over, he often lands fish on my rods! He seems to think that if he can get there before dad it’s a fair cop and can play and land them! Good logic, however bare in mind he had already landed a 40 from the last lake and I let him have my last take, this one was mine! Although I felt a little selfish, beneath I was glad as the fish weighed 37 lb 8 oz and worth a photo. My conscience got the better of me and told him he could take all of the runs on my rods during that afternoon, that was until he retired for the night, he even stayed by the rods whilst I went down to the showers and managed to land a nice mirror of 22 lb 13 oz. Pity he didn’t stay awake a little longer as within an hour of him climbing into his sleeping bag I had a nice mirror which we estimated it at 30 + however it settled the scales at 28 lb 13 oz, it turned out to be the last fish of the session and a good nights sleep was had by all, it was needed before the 8 hour trip to Calais and additional 3 hour drive back to Westbury. It was a reasonably successful trip, I hadn’t landed any really big fish but was content with the upper 30s and my sons 40 lb mirror carp.During the 60 hours we managed to bank over 50 carp with the majority being singles and doubles, at least 15 were over 20 lbs with 5 over 30 to 39 lbs. Boats and outboard motors are available onsite, hot meals can be ordered on a daily baisis and the owner intends to open an onsite tackle shop in the coming months, more France fishing coming soon.Next lake in France I may visit is a small well fishing france http://www.foxpoolfrance.com/ carp fishing all inclusive trips. carp fishing in France
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Carp fishing in France
Carp France - VillidonThe A1 towards Paris is an easy drive until you hit the Paris periphique, this being the France equivalent of the M25 car park! The many exits are known as ports, of which there are literally hundreds that zig zag across across the capital. Once in that central zone it is noticeable how the Highway Code suddenly becomes a set of rules to be broken as the cars bob and weave across lanes, they are masochistic drivers! There are a number of other roads that orbit Paris avoiding the periphique, use them when possible. Once the periphique has been circumnavigated the motorways towards the south of France are a fairly straight forward journey.The venue I was heading for is named Lac de Villedon, it nestles amongst rolling country side between Poitiers and Limoge in central France, it is over 100 acres in size and a boat is needed to reach the majority of the swims. Ready for carp fishing in France We arrived late evening consequently it was a bit of a rush to get the gear transferred into the boat and complete the 1 mile journey to an area in which we suspected the majority of carp to be found. During the journey towards the shallower end of the lake a beady eye was kept on the sonar, the average depths were between 3 – 5 feet, it is unlikely to see fish at this depth as they spook to the boat, its more useful to get a feel for the lakes topography which was fairly uniform. As I neared the top end of the lake, as if on cue a carp popped its head above the surface, that’s location sorted! I switched off the electric outboard for a few minutes to sit and observe, watching closely for any further signs. I did see another fish shortly after within the talons of a rather large bird of prey, I believe it was an Osprey that swooped down without a sound and grasped a small carp, literally 150 yards from the boat. I mentioned this to the onsite owner, he said it was a common occurrence to lose carp of up to 7 lb, good job the lake has a healthy stock!Even in France quiet spots are normally goodI found a small area hidden in the woods that was big enough for 2 bivvy’s and within a hundred yards of where I had seen the fish, 20 minutes later the gear was unloaded and set up. The depth to our front was only 3 to 4 feet. Taking a boat across fish in shallow water often spooks them, therefore was a little apprehensive and kept the motor on low speed to minimise disturbance. There were no major features nearby consequently adopted a long line baiting approach, as the name suggests it is the method of placing a long line of bait between a couple of markers in an area where the fish are likely to cross. This stretched for over 100 yards across the main central area and the bait consisted of Mainline essential opal, maple 8 and pellets (see marker floats in photo). 3 out of the 4 rods were staggered along the line and the fourth rod was fished about 40 yards of the baited area, this is often the one that produces the bigger fish, possibly due to them being a little older, wiser and more territorial than the bulk of the stock.The lines were taken out using a 2 person drill i.e. 2 rods at a time, one towed and one rod in the boat. This saves valuable battery power and reduces the amount of journeys back and forth to the baited area especially useful when fishing at distance. My preferred method is to place one rod in the boat with the baited rig hooked to an eye. The person on the bank drops another baited rig into a bait bucket and the boat driver wraps the line around the hand to stop it being pulled out of the bucket. The person on the bank flicks the bail arm open and controls the line coming of the reel as the boat travels towards the left marker, I say left, however it doesn’t really make a difference so long as the rigs are dropped left to right or right to left. I don’t recommend taking the middle rods out first as it is more difficult to avoid the lines when returning to pick up the outer rods/rig. On reaching the desired spot the angler on the bank tightens the line to ensure a direct line to where the first rig will be dropped. Lower the rig at arms length ensuring it does not catch anywhere on the boat and is away from the prop. Once lowered throw a couple of handfuls of bait over. In shallow water such as this it is important to move away from the one that has just been dropped to avoid the prop catching the line. I often do a 180 degree manoeuvre away from it and pull around to the right ready to drop the next rod that is in the boat. The boat is positioned so that it is facing towards the swim so that the rig can be lowered, the rod butt is placed on the seat with the tip over the back of the boat and bail arm open. When going back towards the bank keep an eye on the spool to ensure the line doesn’t wrap and be careful not to entangle the first line you dropped, catching the other line causes a bit of a headache, in the worst case it may result in snapping the propeller shear pins. Carry out the same drill with the other 2 rods but do be aware of the location of the other lines. When the last rod is lowered I often take a bit of an arc back to the swim to avoid catching them.The life jacket is left in the boat so it is at hand through the night, the last thing you want to do is hunt for it in the darkness when a big carp is taking line on a lake with a lot of snags, be prepared!Carp fishing in France can be hecticThe first take came within a couple of hours of arrival, a mere pup of approximately 10 lb, shortly after another and then another, several pups later and I hooked something that felt a little better. The scales went round to over 20 lb not a huge fish but better than the last few. After a tiring night of catching singles and doubles my son hooked something a little better, as he guided the fish towards the net the hook pulled, I saw the fish and it was considerably better than the others we had landed. I have fished a number of lakes where the small carp vastly out number the better stamp of fish, I don’t mind catching them but was convinced the bigger fish were holding back whilst the smaller fish devoured the bed of bait. The theory was backed up by the fact that the low 20 came to the rod fished off the baited area. In order to reduce the chances of picking up the smaller carp I topped up with 20 mm mainline essential opal and fished a double 20 mm hook bait over the top. The essential opal is harder than the maple 8 and a bit more of a mouthful, the double 20 mm hook baits would make it a little more difficult for the smaller fish to contend with. Sure you will still pick up the odd pup but not nearly as many. At about 1200 hrs the rod fished of the baited area was away, as I played the fish it tail waved in the shallow water, it was clearly a better fish, on the scales it weighed more than I estimated at just over 39 lbs. Not a bad result and only 20 hours into a 60 hour session, again it fell to the rod fished away from the baited area, is there something in it? During the next 24 hours the action was quite consistent with fewer small fish and a bigger average with approximately 6 of the 20 or so carp being over 20 lb.Looking for carpAs I sat watching the water I noticed a few carp head and shoulder 700 yards down the lake towards the middles and 200 yards to the right of my 2 friends, Terry and Aron. They had landed a number of small carp but their average size was somewhat bigger than mine, with a number over 20 lbs. Terry had a couple of 30s plus a catfish and a sturgeon. Within 30 minutes the gear was pilled into the boat and a full load was being transported to a small grassed area 150 yards to the right of Terry. It made sense to get closer to them as we were leaving in the same mini bus early the following morning. When moving swims whilst using a boat I prefer to collapse the gear and place it in the boat rather than pack everything back into rod holdalls and bags, my Ultimate 4 rod pod is left set up i.e. with delkims and bobbins affixed. The rods are laid on top and secured by the weight of the sleeping bag. This way it takes literally minutes to pick the rods out of the boat and place them on the pod when the next destination is reached; moving by boat is quick and easy if some prior thought is put into the loading.The move took less than 40 minutes and the rods were out, rather than risk spooking the fish I cast small bags to the general area. An hour passed before the warble of the delkim had my son pounce towards my rods like a galloping gazelle, he hit the fish and played it half way in before handing it over, he often lands fish on my rods! He seems to think that if he can get there before dad it’s a fair cop and can play and land them! Good logic, however bare in mind he had already landed a 40 from the last lake and I let him have my last take, this one was mine! Although I felt a little selfish, beneath I was glad as the fish weighed 37 lb 8 oz and worth a photo. My conscience got the better of me and told him he could take all of the runs on my rods during that afternoon, that was until he retired for the night, he even stayed by the rods whilst I went down to the showers and managed to land a nice mirror of 22 lb 13 oz. Pity he didn’t stay awake a little longer as within an hour of him climbing into his sleeping bag I had a nice mirror which we estimated it at 30 + however it settled the scales at 28 lb 13 oz, it turned out to be the last fish of the session and a good nights sleep was had by all, it was needed before the 8 hour trip to Calais and additional 3 hour drive back to Westbury. It was a reasonably successful trip, I hadn’t landed any really big fish but was content with the upper 30s and my sons 40 lb mirror carp.During the 60 hours we managed to bank over 50 carp with the majority being singles and doubles, at least 15 were over 20 lbs with 5 over 30 to 39 lbs. Boats and outboard motors are available onsite, hot meals can be ordered on a daily baisis and the owner intends to open an onsite tackle shop in the coming months, more France fishing coming soon.Next lake in France I may visit is a small well fishing france http://www.foxpoolfrance.com/ carp fishing all inclusive trips. carp fishing in France
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Wednesday 9 January 2008
Carp France
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Carp fishing FRANCE holidays
Domaine Du Brocard
La Barriere
Fontaine Aux loups
Intro to fishing holidays
Before moving onto this month’s lake review I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate the English team on their win against France! The fishing was quite difficult and every fish was hard earned, Kev Knight was a nervous wreck on the last night as one of the French pairs landed several carp closing the gap on our lead. However the ever consistent Mark England and Gary Thomas landed 6 carp which equalled the French last minute surge. Ian Macmillan (Armaled fame) and I were amongst those that managed a few carp on the last night that extended the English lead further. Although we didn’t know it at the time England was in front by quite a margin! The match ended and the cheers from the team echoed down the valley! Unofficially we knew we had won; however the official announcement was to be made at the presentations ceremony that evening.
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The announcement was made, “the winners of the France Vs England match - ENGLAND!” Tim Paisley and Kev Knight hoisted the trophy and the deafening roar could have raised the roof! A proud moment and a memory that will stay with me till the end of time! I am already looking forward to meeting the French team on a lake closer to home next year? As they said in their match advertisement, “come on girls!”
Enough of my blabbering and on with the venues: which consist of a complex of 3 lakes, 2 of them allowing carp and catfish fishing. They are known as Domaine Du Brocard. The lake closest to the site entrance named Barriere and the top lake being Fontaine Aux Loups. Both are fairly shallow and picturesque with masses of surface features. Imagine a 37 and 28 acre Redmire pool, you wouldn’t be far from picturing these lakes.
English reservations are through French Carping UK: Rob, one of the directors was my angling partner for this trip, he is a capable angler and has similar ability to myself except in the culinary department. A good choice on any session, however his culinary efforts require some improvement! No offence Rob you set a low catering standard and failed to achieve it, I would rather eat off turnip than let you near the Coleman again!
The lakes lie in the heart of the Champagne region and are surrounded by woodland. We fished the upper lake known as Fontaine Aux loups, however a daily visit was made to the lower lake and a quick chat to the anglers, which enabled me to gather enough information to recommend an approach to both Fontaine Aux Loups and La Barriere.
For those nature lovers amongst you, which I presume is the majority; there is an abundance of wildlife to be seen. I was lucky enough to see what I believe was a kite take a pigeon in flight; it was an amazing sight and one which I would have liked to catch on film. For all of you bird watchers out there; common sightings include many different species of birds of prey. If you are lucky you may even spot a wild bore or deer as they venture down to their watering hole just after sunrise. Over the years I have been asked a number of apprehensive questions regarding wild bore, let’s get rid of a few myths. They are retiring animals and fairly harmless unless you are stupid enough to corner or provoke them when they have piglets! Even then they will try to avoid you, possibly due to their encounters with humans. As these encounters tend to be with hunters which often ends up with the bore receiving a bullet to the vital organs.
Approach to carp fishing
Crayfish are present but not in enough numbers to present major problems, I used harder mainline air-dried hook baits than the free offerings and didn’t encounter any apple-cored boilie’s.
A throwing stick and spod rod are recommended as no boats of any type are allowed. My feed strategy consisted of 2 areas baited with 2 kilo of 18 mm mainline essential opal and active 8 and a tighter bed of ground bait and hemp placed close to the hook bait i.e. a spread of boilies and a tighter dinner plate effect. The theory being that any carp passing the area will notice the spread and move onto the more attractive dinner plate where the trap is waiting. A high attract dipped mainline pop up was used on the third roving rod cast to crashing carp.
Robs approach was slightly different fishing one rod close to a bush in the near margin. Several handfuls of pellets and mainline baits were scattered over the top, and produced fish to 37 lb (16.5 kg) Robs roving rod produced his biggest carp which settled the scales at just under 39 lb (17 kg)
Don’t overcomplicate the matter with fancy rigs, a basic flouro carbon, Armaled kick back or any other coated braid will suffice. These stiffer hook length materials create a push away effect from lead to boilie and rarely tangle. Due to the lead burying into the clay bottom it was necessary to pull back, this not only makes the bait more visible as it sits on top of the silt/clay but also straightens the hook length.
Had we been able to pick our swim we would have had more carp as they could be seen crashing on a regular basis at 110 yards range in front of swim 8 and swim 5. The anglers that were in those swims couldn’t reach the carp, still we can’t complain at the amount of 30s (14 kg +) we caught! The fishing was said to be quite slow in comparison to the average week, but still produced mirrors of 45 (20 kg) and 53 lb (23.5 kg), which fell to some Dutch anglers further down the bank.
Facilities for fishing
The main shower/toilet block is located near the town of Brienne La Chateau, the showers are hot the toilets are English style and all that is needed. There are several toilets of the wooden thunder box type around the lake. They are suitable to a rough and ready angler, however a trip to the better quality toilets in the town may be required if you prefer the comforts of home. There are a number of supermarkets, small angling shops, bars and cake shops in the town. The fishing/shooting shops sell basic items of tackle, bait and a large range of camouflage type clothing.
The carp
La Barriere contains an estimated 450 carp with at least 40% weighing between 30-50 lbs (14 – 22.5 kg) The lake record stands at 54.5 lb. It is a is very well stocked with catfish, the average being 30-50 lb (14 – 22.5 kg) However the lake is being drained this winter with the intention of removing all catfish below 40 lbs (17.5 kg) Even with these smaller fish removed, there will still be a large stock of cats of a larger average size. The current biggest landed is 110 lb. There are heavier mogies present but due to the power and size of them they are difficult to land on standard carp tackle.
Due to the cats enjoying a bit of fowl you will see no birds on this lake! You may see some frogs but will notice that they are reluctant to swim in the water, I know it sounds strange but they tend to hop across the water from branch to branch as quick as their little legs will carry them! Obviously in fear of the vultures below!
Fontaine Aux Loups is also very well stocked with over 600 carp with at least 50% over 30 lbs and approximately 150 over 40lbs at the right time of year, this being during the fish check and count during the vidange (draining of the lake) In addition there are a good number of grass carp which go to mid 30s, if like me you are not a lover of grass carp and don’t want to hook them, don’t use particles. Big head carp to over 70 lbs are present but rarely caught due to their main diet consisting of tiny food morsels. There are no catfish in this lake but does contain a lot of pike; they are stocked to keep the levels of the smaller fish down.
After this years successful spawning there are thousands of small carp of 4-6 inches in length. The fisheries director and onsite bailiff Frank demonstrated just how successful the spawning was with a scoop of a landing net, each dip engulfed an average of 20 miniature carp.
Rules for fishing
A full set of rules and regulations is sent upon reservation, the main rules worth mentioning are as follows:
1. Barbless hooks only
2. Mono mainline only
3. Hook links must be weaker than the mainline
4. No boats or bait boats
5. No nuts
6. No sacking of carp
7. Large beanie type mats
8. No unattended rods
9. Cars must be parked in car parks after unloading
10. No mutilation of carp
11. 3 rods and one smaller match type rod is allowed.
Swims and features
La Barierre is different in shape to Loups, it is longer and narrower with 4 swims well spaced along the track bank.
Swim 1 is the shallowest swim with reed beds to the left and overhanging trees along the far margin. Judging by the catch reports it is a very good swim during the summer months.
Swim 2 has a wooden platform and depths to the front averaging 4 feet. The far margin is a cast of 150 yards and littered with overhanging trees and snags, however if you are able to cast a bait to within 20 metres of it you will be on fish as there are normally numbers of carp in the area. The fallen tree in the near margin to the right is an area that tends to hold carp and resident catfish.
Swim 3 has dead trees along the far margin at a range of 80 – 100 yards, a popular swim that produces a lot of fish.
Swim 4 is the dam sluice swim which covers a lot of water and a good choice when the wind is blowing towards that end of the lake. The main features being the marginal tree line and dead tree that protrudes out from the far margin.
Fontaine Aux Loups has 7 double swims with a new one being planned for next year. The lake bed is mainly made up of clay with a covering of silt. The average depth is 4 foot and fairly flat. The masses of features I mentioned earlier are the large lilly beds and a number of smaller clumps. Mature trees drape into the water along the forest swims creating a natural looking lake. The old branches that have fallen from the large trees have been left beneath the canopy creating sanctuary areas. Pea mussels cling to them forming a food larder; carp visit this area on a regular basis to crunch some tasty morsels.
Swim 5 is the first swim as you travel along the track from La Barriere, the main features, as with most of the swims are the abundant lilly clumps at ranges from 30 – 100 yards plus.
Swim 6 is the deepest part of the lake as it is close to the sluice; the old river bed departs the lake at this point and is fairly easy to find due to being close to the bank. The island is located to the left of this swim at a range of 80-100 yards.
Swim 7 is located to the left side of the island which is a fairly simple cast. There is open water to the front with several clumps of lilies at range.
Swim 8 has pads to the right and a small lily bed at approximately 100 yards.
Swims 9 and 10 both have wooden platforms and are located in the forest. Features are similar with large lily beds and marginal snags where the trees have fallen in. No driving is allowed to these swims; if you have reserved one of them a carp porter may be useful.
Swim 11 is at the bottom end of the lake, the main features being the large lily beds and smaller clumps at 70 – 100 yards range.
Conclusion and carp fishing in France advice
These lakes are suitable to those looking for carp of a good average size as both venues contain many fish in the 20 – 40 lb (9 – 17.5 kg) bracket. La Barriere is the more productive of the two lakes although the average size is slightly smaller. Fontaine Aux Loups holds more 40s (17.5 kg) and 50s (22.5 kg) but is slightly more difficult than its lower cousin. During an average week several 40s (17.5 kg) and a couple of 50s (22.5 kg) pose for the cameras and a number of catfish. If you are looking for lakes that contain a large average size of carp in natural surroundings then these lakes are worth considering.
Reservations can be made 7 days a week through:
http://www.frenchcarpinguk.com/
Tel: 01204 886226 or 07979 274300
Note:
This series is not an advert for any commercial fishery owners, although it can be good for their promotion; it is one man paying his own way, travelling to commercial waters in France to review them. The main emphasis being on recommending an approach, successful baits, swims and finding features. However in order to gather as much information as possible I not only fish the venues but also interview the owner. This lengthy chat includes: looking at their catch reports, requesting photographs of past clients, stock, facilities and other information. I did just this for a lake featured in an earlier issue. I fished the lake caught fish but not the biggest ones, therefore requested some photos of carp caught by past clients and took some photographs of their photographs on their picture board. I made an assumption that the fish photographs on the picture board were from that venue! Wrong! After the said article was published Tony Miller (French commercial venue owner) rang and told me that some of the fish were actually from his lake and not the one in the feature. I had placed fish photographs in an article that were not caught from the featured lake and was totally unaware of the fact! One obviously presumes that they were caught from that venue? I am a little perturbed about the matter! As ever I make every effort to present accurate facts on all venues I visit for this series.
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Carp fishing FRANCE holidays
Domaine Du Brocard
La Barriere
Fontaine Aux loups
Intro to fishing holidays
Before moving onto this month’s lake review I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate the English team on their win against France! The fishing was quite difficult and every fish was hard earned, Kev Knight was a nervous wreck on the last night as one of the French pairs landed several carp closing the gap on our lead. However the ever consistent Mark England and Gary Thomas landed 6 carp which equalled the French last minute surge. Ian Macmillan (Armaled fame) and I were amongst those that managed a few carp on the last night that extended the English lead further. Although we didn’t know it at the time England was in front by quite a margin! The match ended and the cheers from the team echoed down the valley! Unofficially we knew we had won; however the official announcement was to be made at the presentations ceremony that evening.
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The announcement was made, “the winners of the France Vs England match - ENGLAND!” Tim Paisley and Kev Knight hoisted the trophy and the deafening roar could have raised the roof! A proud moment and a memory that will stay with me till the end of time! I am already looking forward to meeting the French team on a lake closer to home next year? As they said in their match advertisement, “come on girls!”
Enough of my blabbering and on with the venues: which consist of a complex of 3 lakes, 2 of them allowing carp and catfish fishing. They are known as Domaine Du Brocard. The lake closest to the site entrance named Barriere and the top lake being Fontaine Aux Loups. Both are fairly shallow and picturesque with masses of surface features. Imagine a 37 and 28 acre Redmire pool, you wouldn’t be far from picturing these lakes.
English reservations are through French Carping UK: Rob, one of the directors was my angling partner for this trip, he is a capable angler and has similar ability to myself except in the culinary department. A good choice on any session, however his culinary efforts require some improvement! No offence Rob you set a low catering standard and failed to achieve it, I would rather eat off turnip than let you near the Coleman again!
The lakes lie in the heart of the Champagne region and are surrounded by woodland. We fished the upper lake known as Fontaine Aux loups, however a daily visit was made to the lower lake and a quick chat to the anglers, which enabled me to gather enough information to recommend an approach to both Fontaine Aux Loups and La Barriere.
For those nature lovers amongst you, which I presume is the majority; there is an abundance of wildlife to be seen. I was lucky enough to see what I believe was a kite take a pigeon in flight; it was an amazing sight and one which I would have liked to catch on film. For all of you bird watchers out there; common sightings include many different species of birds of prey. If you are lucky you may even spot a wild bore or deer as they venture down to their watering hole just after sunrise. Over the years I have been asked a number of apprehensive questions regarding wild bore, let’s get rid of a few myths. They are retiring animals and fairly harmless unless you are stupid enough to corner or provoke them when they have piglets! Even then they will try to avoid you, possibly due to their encounters with humans. As these encounters tend to be with hunters which often ends up with the bore receiving a bullet to the vital organs.
Approach to carp fishing
Crayfish are present but not in enough numbers to present major problems, I used harder mainline air-dried hook baits than the free offerings and didn’t encounter any apple-cored boilie’s.
A throwing stick and spod rod are recommended as no boats of any type are allowed. My feed strategy consisted of 2 areas baited with 2 kilo of 18 mm mainline essential opal and active 8 and a tighter bed of ground bait and hemp placed close to the hook bait i.e. a spread of boilies and a tighter dinner plate effect. The theory being that any carp passing the area will notice the spread and move onto the more attractive dinner plate where the trap is waiting. A high attract dipped mainline pop up was used on the third roving rod cast to crashing carp.
Robs approach was slightly different fishing one rod close to a bush in the near margin. Several handfuls of pellets and mainline baits were scattered over the top, and produced fish to 37 lb (16.5 kg) Robs roving rod produced his biggest carp which settled the scales at just under 39 lb (17 kg)
Don’t overcomplicate the matter with fancy rigs, a basic flouro carbon, Armaled kick back or any other coated braid will suffice. These stiffer hook length materials create a push away effect from lead to boilie and rarely tangle. Due to the lead burying into the clay bottom it was necessary to pull back, this not only makes the bait more visible as it sits on top of the silt/clay but also straightens the hook length.
Had we been able to pick our swim we would have had more carp as they could be seen crashing on a regular basis at 110 yards range in front of swim 8 and swim 5. The anglers that were in those swims couldn’t reach the carp, still we can’t complain at the amount of 30s (14 kg +) we caught! The fishing was said to be quite slow in comparison to the average week, but still produced mirrors of 45 (20 kg) and 53 lb (23.5 kg), which fell to some Dutch anglers further down the bank.
Facilities for fishing
The main shower/toilet block is located near the town of Brienne La Chateau, the showers are hot the toilets are English style and all that is needed. There are several toilets of the wooden thunder box type around the lake. They are suitable to a rough and ready angler, however a trip to the better quality toilets in the town may be required if you prefer the comforts of home. There are a number of supermarkets, small angling shops, bars and cake shops in the town. The fishing/shooting shops sell basic items of tackle, bait and a large range of camouflage type clothing.
The carp
La Barriere contains an estimated 450 carp with at least 40% weighing between 30-50 lbs (14 – 22.5 kg) The lake record stands at 54.5 lb. It is a is very well stocked with catfish, the average being 30-50 lb (14 – 22.5 kg) However the lake is being drained this winter with the intention of removing all catfish below 40 lbs (17.5 kg) Even with these smaller fish removed, there will still be a large stock of cats of a larger average size. The current biggest landed is 110 lb. There are heavier mogies present but due to the power and size of them they are difficult to land on standard carp tackle.
Due to the cats enjoying a bit of fowl you will see no birds on this lake! You may see some frogs but will notice that they are reluctant to swim in the water, I know it sounds strange but they tend to hop across the water from branch to branch as quick as their little legs will carry them! Obviously in fear of the vultures below!
Fontaine Aux Loups is also very well stocked with over 600 carp with at least 50% over 30 lbs and approximately 150 over 40lbs at the right time of year, this being during the fish check and count during the vidange (draining of the lake) In addition there are a good number of grass carp which go to mid 30s, if like me you are not a lover of grass carp and don’t want to hook them, don’t use particles. Big head carp to over 70 lbs are present but rarely caught due to their main diet consisting of tiny food morsels. There are no catfish in this lake but does contain a lot of pike; they are stocked to keep the levels of the smaller fish down.
After this years successful spawning there are thousands of small carp of 4-6 inches in length. The fisheries director and onsite bailiff Frank demonstrated just how successful the spawning was with a scoop of a landing net, each dip engulfed an average of 20 miniature carp.
Rules for fishing
A full set of rules and regulations is sent upon reservation, the main rules worth mentioning are as follows:
1. Barbless hooks only
2. Mono mainline only
3. Hook links must be weaker than the mainline
4. No boats or bait boats
5. No nuts
6. No sacking of carp
7. Large beanie type mats
8. No unattended rods
9. Cars must be parked in car parks after unloading
10. No mutilation of carp
11. 3 rods and one smaller match type rod is allowed.
Swims and features
La Barierre is different in shape to Loups, it is longer and narrower with 4 swims well spaced along the track bank.
Swim 1 is the shallowest swim with reed beds to the left and overhanging trees along the far margin. Judging by the catch reports it is a very good swim during the summer months.
Swim 2 has a wooden platform and depths to the front averaging 4 feet. The far margin is a cast of 150 yards and littered with overhanging trees and snags, however if you are able to cast a bait to within 20 metres of it you will be on fish as there are normally numbers of carp in the area. The fallen tree in the near margin to the right is an area that tends to hold carp and resident catfish.
Swim 3 has dead trees along the far margin at a range of 80 – 100 yards, a popular swim that produces a lot of fish.
Swim 4 is the dam sluice swim which covers a lot of water and a good choice when the wind is blowing towards that end of the lake. The main features being the marginal tree line and dead tree that protrudes out from the far margin.
Fontaine Aux Loups has 7 double swims with a new one being planned for next year. The lake bed is mainly made up of clay with a covering of silt. The average depth is 4 foot and fairly flat. The masses of features I mentioned earlier are the large lilly beds and a number of smaller clumps. Mature trees drape into the water along the forest swims creating a natural looking lake. The old branches that have fallen from the large trees have been left beneath the canopy creating sanctuary areas. Pea mussels cling to them forming a food larder; carp visit this area on a regular basis to crunch some tasty morsels.
Swim 5 is the first swim as you travel along the track from La Barriere, the main features, as with most of the swims are the abundant lilly clumps at ranges from 30 – 100 yards plus.
Swim 6 is the deepest part of the lake as it is close to the sluice; the old river bed departs the lake at this point and is fairly easy to find due to being close to the bank. The island is located to the left of this swim at a range of 80-100 yards.
Swim 7 is located to the left side of the island which is a fairly simple cast. There is open water to the front with several clumps of lilies at range.
Swim 8 has pads to the right and a small lily bed at approximately 100 yards.
Swims 9 and 10 both have wooden platforms and are located in the forest. Features are similar with large lily beds and marginal snags where the trees have fallen in. No driving is allowed to these swims; if you have reserved one of them a carp porter may be useful.
Swim 11 is at the bottom end of the lake, the main features being the large lily beds and smaller clumps at 70 – 100 yards range.
Conclusion and carp fishing in France advice
These lakes are suitable to those looking for carp of a good average size as both venues contain many fish in the 20 – 40 lb (9 – 17.5 kg) bracket. La Barriere is the more productive of the two lakes although the average size is slightly smaller. Fontaine Aux Loups holds more 40s (17.5 kg) and 50s (22.5 kg) but is slightly more difficult than its lower cousin. During an average week several 40s (17.5 kg) and a couple of 50s (22.5 kg) pose for the cameras and a number of catfish. If you are looking for lakes that contain a large average size of carp in natural surroundings then these lakes are worth considering.
Reservations can be made 7 days a week through:
http://www.frenchcarpinguk.com/
Tel: 01204 886226 or 07979 274300
Note:
This series is not an advert for any commercial fishery owners, although it can be good for their promotion; it is one man paying his own way, travelling to commercial waters in France to review them. The main emphasis being on recommending an approach, successful baits, swims and finding features. However in order to gather as much information as possible I not only fish the venues but also interview the owner. This lengthy chat includes: looking at their catch reports, requesting photographs of past clients, stock, facilities and other information. I did just this for a lake featured in an earlier issue. I fished the lake caught fish but not the biggest ones, therefore requested some photos of carp caught by past clients and took some photographs of their photographs on their picture board. I made an assumption that the fish photographs on the picture board were from that venue! Wrong! After the said article was published Tony Miller (French commercial venue owner) rang and told me that some of the fish were actually from his lake and not the one in the feature. I had placed fish photographs in an article that were not caught from the featured lake and was totally unaware of the fact! One obviously presumes that they were caught from that venue? I am a little perturbed about the matter! As ever I make every effort to present accurate facts on all venues I visit for this series.
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Carp fishing holidays
The monthly trips abroad to write this series have been in the same breath both tiring and rewarding, many miles have been covered, so many that my clapped out fishing van is on her last legs. I thought I was going to lose her as the garage doors slammed behind the rust bucket for a recent MOT. I was overjoyed when the van doctor rang and told me that she is ill but we can save her at a cost of £334 with the best treatment that money can buy, the old dear is worth it for my regular fishing holidays, trout pellet smell and all.
However this left me in a bit of a dilemma as I had every intention of fishing a commercial venue in France over the said period. Not wanting a miniscule problem such as no transport stand in the way, an all-inclusive trip would need to be arranged. A long hard search through the pages of the angling publications magazines was essential to narrow the search. I was tired of driving and yearned for something a bit diverse and somewhat special for you over the change of year period. I was looking to write an article that would keep you on the edge of your seat, a bit like a good book that you cannot put down, however I don’t have the ability for that therefore will write in the same manner that I do every month; the chosen lake needs no introduction as it has been on the European carp scene for a number of years. However the complex has had a face-lift, with the stock, ascetics and holiday packages being vastly improved. Andrea was keen to show me the before and after photographs, and I must say that the new owners have made some major improvements in all areas.
Crap fishing package
The package I chose could be described as a fly, pick up and provide service i.e. the flight is arranged, you are collected by the lake owner at Dinard airport driven to the lake where the bivvy is pre-assembled and all of the other tackle placed for you. All that I needed to take was 3 reels, 3 buzzers, 3 bobbins, sleeping bag, rig bag and a change of camouflage, everything else is onsite. Apart from the body and hand luggage search the flight went with minimum delay; the forceps in my hand luggage were on the verge of being confiscated, I thought I was going to lose them as the airport inspectors quizzed me as to why I was carrying such a lethal weapon. Sarcasm is the lowest form of whit and I shouldn’t jest in this day and age, its good to see that security is on the ball.
Air travel has got to be the way forward to visit lakes in France, for the first time ever I was not fatigued on arrival. I didn’t need a couple of days to recover from the road journey, resulting in more energy to locate the fish! In addition I felt fresh at the end of the session when landing back in good old Blighty.
Swims and features - carp location
Due to the lake being over 300 years old it has had ample time to mature; surrounded by dense mixed forest with lots of the trees of the sweet chestnut and conifer variety. Many extend beyond the margins dropping their fruits into the water; on several occasions carp were seen unsettling the bottom nearby. Maybe the carp were feasting on the fruits of the fall i.e. sweet chestnuts and pine seeds?
The dog bone shaped lake is said to be 12 acres and somewhat larger than some venues that I have fished of a comparable stated acreage. In my estimations I would say that this lake owner has his lake estimations correct.
The 12 comfortable swims are well positioned, each being strategically located to give the angler plenty of water and features to fish without encroaching on each other. There are many spots amid swims that lend themselves to the cautious stalking approach.
A quiet country road passes by the mill house and facilities along the Eastern Damn embankment, this being the deepest part of the lake. The channel that parallels is one of many interesting features, it was from this gully that I enticed a number of 30 and 40 lb carp; a bait placed near to the bend in the rod sign brought many takes, cryptic clue but easily deciphered and seen on arrival.
The middle swims overlook an area of numerous features, from rich brown silt to large gravel patches along the far margin. Don’t neglect the overhanging bushes as I spooked several carp whilst passing in the boat.
The shallower top end has a number of hard-bottomed areas near to the lily beds. A trap was placed on these during the first few nights before moving to the damn swims. I was averaging a couple of mid thirties per 24 hours. Many fish can be seen from the branches of the old oak tree, the ladder that is leant against it enables easy climbing to gain a good vantage point.
4 x 40s, Monster Moggy and Mervin the Sturgeon (aka fight night)
Throughout the series I have worked hard to find the approach to suit the chosen venue and Brittany Mill was no different, when the approach and location are correct, results will come: I was averaging 2 thirties per 24 hour period whilst at the shallower top end of the lake, but could not help thinking that I could do better. 2 days into the session my mind kept wandering to past stalking sessions, the creeping amongst the undergrowth with a lobworm impaled on the hook, oh how I enjoy this approach. Swim hopping and stalking has several advantages: it helps in location due to visiting a number of swims, it is probably the most exciting of methods and it can be extremely productive both in the UK and France.
So there I am with a stalk on the brain, the tribal was adorned and 2 rods prepared, I was off in the boat to the first of several areas that had been pre noted, those areas that lend themselves to such tactics. The delicate deliberate approach was adopted, laying low, creeping with finesse like a sniper approaching the enemy. As I crawled into position I peered through the bank side foliage and noticed several carp uprooting the rich brown silt. Not wanting to move in fear of spooking them the worm was gently lowered into position. The carp’s tails dimpled the surface as they buried their heads in search of food items, and slowly nearing my hook bait. The bait was too succulent to be ignored, the float slid across the surface, my heart felt like it was in my mouth as the beats increased, I struck into nothing, what a wasted chance! I had messed up pulling the hook from the carp’s mouth.
After giving myself a dig in the ribs through my failed effort, I retired to safe haven under the bushes, awaiting their return. And that they did, this time closer to the lilies to the right, slightly out of reach of the float. An alternate approach consisted of crushed maple 8 in a bag with a small maple boilie on the hair. This was lobbed to the edge of the decaying pads and fished with a slack line. As I sat out of site, out of mind in the side brush the bait runner churned as a carp bow waved towards the security of the lilies, the rod took on its battle curve. The sling was hoisted and scales registered 36.2 oz of pristine mirror and a fish I would not have caught if I had not taken the stalking opportunity.
There seemed to be more fish in this area than in the area we were bivvied up in, a quick gathering of the gear and Shep and I were in position with 3 rods each. Within an hour of arrival the left alarm signalled a slow laborious take, the signs of a good fish, the powerful fight that ensued tested the provided rods. As the carp was engulfed in the net I estimated it to be around the mid 40 lb mark. However the scales told a different story as the big framed mirror settled the needle at 41 lb 4 oz, not as big as estimated but my first 40 of the session.
Whist I had disturbed the swim it was an opportunity to re-cast to the carp that were shouldering within 10 metres of the damn embankment. 30 minutes passed before Andrea the lady of the lake and onsite owner’s wife delivered lunch. Within minutes of her leaving the swim another take was struck into, lady luck was on my side as I netted a 44 lb mirror. Although the fish took some time to land, the story has been cut short due to wanting to get the remainder of the day’s results in this short article.
As the sun descended I was able to land the fourth good fish of the day, it being a 33.6 lb mirror.
The sun glistened its final rays of the day, my gut feeling indicated a night of arm aching action. As I sat reminiscing of the day’s events one of the Damn rods let out a single bleep, eyes focused on the LED as it gave a second and third bleep. Rather strange I thought, as most of the takes had been slow, ponderous but hittable, this was different. As I lifted the rod it was almost wrenched from my hands, the clutch was slipping as the creature on the other end decided to strip over 100 yards of line. I felt powerless and was loosing control, my suspicions were now gearing towards a catfish, it seemed too beefy to be a carp.
At times it sulked on the bottom, what a stubborn immovable creature, only maximum pressure would get it mobile. I was not going to let it regain energy by allowing a stationary breather. Each time I got it moving it would power off up the lake taking half a spool of line with it. After 50 minutes I was wondering how much longer the size 6 barbless hook would hold. After what seemed like a decade, the catfish was seen within 10 yards of the bank, maximum load was applied and the moggy neared the 50-inch net. There was no engulfing this beast; it was more of a slide and scoop to fold its body in the mesh.
As we unhooked it, the lake owner arrived to lend a helping hand. None of us possessed big enough scales to weigh the fish; therefore he suggested that we use his bathroom scales. A long shot but it just might work! The idea being to stand on the scales then again with the catfish in my arms, whereupon we could extract my body weight from the weight when I was cradling the fish! As I stood on the scales the crowd hoisted the monster into my arms, as the weight of the catfish was slowly released my legs started to buckle under the strain. The weight was read, I expected the helpers to immediately take the fish from my grasp. No such luck as they insisted on some happy snaps of a potemtial hernia and me! We settled for a weight of 87 lb, a personal best catfish caught on carp rods and methods.
Within half an hour of the monster moggy, line started to leave the baitrunner at a rapid rate of knots. This time I was connected to a rather large carp that also took some time to beat, the scales settled at 45 lb 12 oz the third 40 lb plus carp within several hours.
Due to fatigue I was silently hoping that I could now relax into the soothing properties of my sleeping bag and have a recuperating nap. I had just started to watch the carp crash on the back of my eyelids when the buzzer had me up and into another fish, it didn’t feel too big. The fish was only 20 yards from the bank when all hell broke loose and it turned to take over 150 yards of line from the reel, this was whilst applying maximum pressure. I stood in awe, there was nothing I could do but glare at the spool in disbelief, the only other animal I had ever hooked with such power was a cow, but that’s another story. At this point I could see the silver of the spool base and had no choice but to clamber into the boat and clamp down solid. The fish towed the 12-foot rigid boat to the top of the lake before turning and heading towards the fibreglass dinghy, causing me to franticly wind to regain control. 50 minutes had now passed; my body was trembling due to the catfish, the numerous big carp and now 50 minutes of this beast! I had no choice but to hand the rod over to Shep, I needed to regain energy. During the next hour we passed the rod between each other until the huge head of a mighty sturgeon named Mervin slid head first into the long mesh of the net. The battle had lasted close to 2 hours and the fish was landed in a swim 200 yards from where it had been hooked. Again the fish was too heavy to be weighed however the lake owner informed us that it had been stocked at 72 lbs! I wasn’t going to climb on the bathroom scales again! Now you can see why I named it fight night! Within several hours we had several mid 30s, 3 carp over 40 lbs, a moggy of 87 lbs and sturgeon of approximately 70 lbs!
Two days later Shep had a take from an open water rod, as he struck, 70 lb of shear muscle cleared the surface, Mervin the sturgeon had put in a second appearance. The fight was pretty similar to our first encounter, but not quite as long. After an hour and fifteen minute lakeside tour the head slide towards the bottom of the net, what a creature! Due to having caught him 48 hours previous I took the opportunity to get some day shots.
Carp fishing baits, tactics
My normal choice of crumbed maple 8 with a matching or pineapple enticed the majority of takes, this combination accounting for at least 100 carp in the last 8 weeks with approximately 35 of them being over 30 lbs and 6 x 40s. When conditions and feeding intensity improved loose feed was increased and when feeding activity reduced I experimented with pastes and some of the onsite carp pellets. It is a rounded pellet that I have not come across, they do look the business and do not dissolve in water but go soft and retain their shape. Similar in appearance to an 8 mm boilie, they are different and effective! They are introduced in large quantities during the winter months therefore a known food source to the carp.
Since the release of Korda hybrid I have used it in the majority of my fishing and believe it is a leap forward in rig length material. The flouro carbon stiff outer naturally forces the hook bait away from the lead and makes the lead and rigging less obtrusive. In addition to the press away effect an inch or two of the flouro can be peeled back to the braided inner. Quarter of an inch of this flouro is left to form a bend effect at the hook. This not only presents better hooking properties but also protects the carps mouth against sharp braid. I have seen cut mouths and flanks so many times that I no longer use fine braided hook lengths or braided mainline without employing a protective sheaf i.e. tubing.
Although bait boats are allowed I opted not to use one, preferring to cast the small PVA meshed parcels to showing fish or features. A scan of the entire lake with sonar early on in the session helped build a picture of the lakes topography in most areas. The idea being that if the carp moved I would be aware of the features in the area that they moved too, this eradicates the need to row over showing fish. Occasionally the onsite boat was used to place baits, but the time on the water was kept to a minimum, I have noticed that when boats are used in shallow water the fish often spook.
Carp Stock
In addition to the large amount of big carp present there has been recent stockings of 30/40 lb plus fish and Mervin the sturgeon. There are a number of catfish present with at least 2 of them surpassing the 100 lb mark.
There are few venues that can boast an average size of over 30 lbs, in fact I managed to subdue 16 fish over 30 lbs of which 4 were good 40 s to 45.12 oz and my average was calculated to be 36 lb!!
The lake record for both common and mirror carp is over 50 lbs. The lake record common is an immaculate fish and one I would love to cradle, during the last 2 days of the session I switched tactics to boilie’s over hemp in an attempt to focus on the large commons, but failed in the quest, maybe next time.
Fshing facilities
The food package is encompassed in the fly/provide package and must say that it is more suited to a high class restaurant! My mouth was watering every evening as I took my seat at 1745 hours for the coming delights. The starter was brilliant, the main meal was awesome and the pudding was difficult to consume, without doubt some of the best food I have ever tasted. I have always classed my good lady wife to be good in the kitchen (cooking I mean), but nothing in comparison to what is on offer at Brittany Mill Lakes.
The onsite toilets and showers are situated within a modernised block; they are spotless and suitable for the other half. Steve and family have achieved their aim of a carp fishing holiday venue rather than just a weeks fishing, I take my real tree cap off to them.
Fishing holiday Conclusion
As stated in the first article of this series I will endeavour to constructively criticize all venues, however constructive criticism for this lake/package is difficult to find. I will say that I came back a few kilograms heavier due to the gourmet food. Having informed Andrea of my criticism, she promptly informed me that she also provided for specific dietary requirements.
When Steve set about achieving his dream of purchasing lakes in France he asked himself one question, “ What would he like from a fishing holiday?” He then set about his aim with the all-inclusive fly and provide package. From an outsider’s point of view, the package sets precedence!
If the approach that I have outlined above is followed, the majority of anglers visiting this lake should catch, put the effort in and the rewards will come.
I wish to return to Brittany Mill lakes when the second lake is opened but in the mean time I am searching for other venues to visit, therefore if you believe your lake is worthy of inclusion in my approach to commercial venues series don’t hesitate to get in touch, but bare in mind if its not up to scratch I will say so in a constructive manner!Coming soon! Etang Neuilly, a down to earth approach on a Carp Fishing Holidays venue
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The monthly trips abroad to write this series have been in the same breath both tiring and rewarding, many miles have been covered, so many that my clapped out fishing van is on her last legs. I thought I was going to lose her as the garage doors slammed behind the rust bucket for a recent MOT. I was overjoyed when the van doctor rang and told me that she is ill but we can save her at a cost of £334 with the best treatment that money can buy, the old dear is worth it for my regular fishing holidays, trout pellet smell and all.
However this left me in a bit of a dilemma as I had every intention of fishing a commercial venue in France over the said period. Not wanting a miniscule problem such as no transport stand in the way, an all-inclusive trip would need to be arranged. A long hard search through the pages of the angling publications magazines was essential to narrow the search. I was tired of driving and yearned for something a bit diverse and somewhat special for you over the change of year period. I was looking to write an article that would keep you on the edge of your seat, a bit like a good book that you cannot put down, however I don’t have the ability for that therefore will write in the same manner that I do every month; the chosen lake needs no introduction as it has been on the European carp scene for a number of years. However the complex has had a face-lift, with the stock, ascetics and holiday packages being vastly improved. Andrea was keen to show me the before and after photographs, and I must say that the new owners have made some major improvements in all areas.
Crap fishing package
The package I chose could be described as a fly, pick up and provide service i.e. the flight is arranged, you are collected by the lake owner at Dinard airport driven to the lake where the bivvy is pre-assembled and all of the other tackle placed for you. All that I needed to take was 3 reels, 3 buzzers, 3 bobbins, sleeping bag, rig bag and a change of camouflage, everything else is onsite. Apart from the body and hand luggage search the flight went with minimum delay; the forceps in my hand luggage were on the verge of being confiscated, I thought I was going to lose them as the airport inspectors quizzed me as to why I was carrying such a lethal weapon. Sarcasm is the lowest form of whit and I shouldn’t jest in this day and age, its good to see that security is on the ball.
Air travel has got to be the way forward to visit lakes in France, for the first time ever I was not fatigued on arrival. I didn’t need a couple of days to recover from the road journey, resulting in more energy to locate the fish! In addition I felt fresh at the end of the session when landing back in good old Blighty.
Swims and features - carp location
Due to the lake being over 300 years old it has had ample time to mature; surrounded by dense mixed forest with lots of the trees of the sweet chestnut and conifer variety. Many extend beyond the margins dropping their fruits into the water; on several occasions carp were seen unsettling the bottom nearby. Maybe the carp were feasting on the fruits of the fall i.e. sweet chestnuts and pine seeds?
The dog bone shaped lake is said to be 12 acres and somewhat larger than some venues that I have fished of a comparable stated acreage. In my estimations I would say that this lake owner has his lake estimations correct.
The 12 comfortable swims are well positioned, each being strategically located to give the angler plenty of water and features to fish without encroaching on each other. There are many spots amid swims that lend themselves to the cautious stalking approach.
A quiet country road passes by the mill house and facilities along the Eastern Damn embankment, this being the deepest part of the lake. The channel that parallels is one of many interesting features, it was from this gully that I enticed a number of 30 and 40 lb carp; a bait placed near to the bend in the rod sign brought many takes, cryptic clue but easily deciphered and seen on arrival.
The middle swims overlook an area of numerous features, from rich brown silt to large gravel patches along the far margin. Don’t neglect the overhanging bushes as I spooked several carp whilst passing in the boat.
The shallower top end has a number of hard-bottomed areas near to the lily beds. A trap was placed on these during the first few nights before moving to the damn swims. I was averaging a couple of mid thirties per 24 hours. Many fish can be seen from the branches of the old oak tree, the ladder that is leant against it enables easy climbing to gain a good vantage point.
4 x 40s, Monster Moggy and Mervin the Sturgeon (aka fight night)
Throughout the series I have worked hard to find the approach to suit the chosen venue and Brittany Mill was no different, when the approach and location are correct, results will come: I was averaging 2 thirties per 24 hour period whilst at the shallower top end of the lake, but could not help thinking that I could do better. 2 days into the session my mind kept wandering to past stalking sessions, the creeping amongst the undergrowth with a lobworm impaled on the hook, oh how I enjoy this approach. Swim hopping and stalking has several advantages: it helps in location due to visiting a number of swims, it is probably the most exciting of methods and it can be extremely productive both in the UK and France.
So there I am with a stalk on the brain, the tribal was adorned and 2 rods prepared, I was off in the boat to the first of several areas that had been pre noted, those areas that lend themselves to such tactics. The delicate deliberate approach was adopted, laying low, creeping with finesse like a sniper approaching the enemy. As I crawled into position I peered through the bank side foliage and noticed several carp uprooting the rich brown silt. Not wanting to move in fear of spooking them the worm was gently lowered into position. The carp’s tails dimpled the surface as they buried their heads in search of food items, and slowly nearing my hook bait. The bait was too succulent to be ignored, the float slid across the surface, my heart felt like it was in my mouth as the beats increased, I struck into nothing, what a wasted chance! I had messed up pulling the hook from the carp’s mouth.
After giving myself a dig in the ribs through my failed effort, I retired to safe haven under the bushes, awaiting their return. And that they did, this time closer to the lilies to the right, slightly out of reach of the float. An alternate approach consisted of crushed maple 8 in a bag with a small maple boilie on the hair. This was lobbed to the edge of the decaying pads and fished with a slack line. As I sat out of site, out of mind in the side brush the bait runner churned as a carp bow waved towards the security of the lilies, the rod took on its battle curve. The sling was hoisted and scales registered 36.2 oz of pristine mirror and a fish I would not have caught if I had not taken the stalking opportunity.
There seemed to be more fish in this area than in the area we were bivvied up in, a quick gathering of the gear and Shep and I were in position with 3 rods each. Within an hour of arrival the left alarm signalled a slow laborious take, the signs of a good fish, the powerful fight that ensued tested the provided rods. As the carp was engulfed in the net I estimated it to be around the mid 40 lb mark. However the scales told a different story as the big framed mirror settled the needle at 41 lb 4 oz, not as big as estimated but my first 40 of the session.
Whist I had disturbed the swim it was an opportunity to re-cast to the carp that were shouldering within 10 metres of the damn embankment. 30 minutes passed before Andrea the lady of the lake and onsite owner’s wife delivered lunch. Within minutes of her leaving the swim another take was struck into, lady luck was on my side as I netted a 44 lb mirror. Although the fish took some time to land, the story has been cut short due to wanting to get the remainder of the day’s results in this short article.
As the sun descended I was able to land the fourth good fish of the day, it being a 33.6 lb mirror.
The sun glistened its final rays of the day, my gut feeling indicated a night of arm aching action. As I sat reminiscing of the day’s events one of the Damn rods let out a single bleep, eyes focused on the LED as it gave a second and third bleep. Rather strange I thought, as most of the takes had been slow, ponderous but hittable, this was different. As I lifted the rod it was almost wrenched from my hands, the clutch was slipping as the creature on the other end decided to strip over 100 yards of line. I felt powerless and was loosing control, my suspicions were now gearing towards a catfish, it seemed too beefy to be a carp.
At times it sulked on the bottom, what a stubborn immovable creature, only maximum pressure would get it mobile. I was not going to let it regain energy by allowing a stationary breather. Each time I got it moving it would power off up the lake taking half a spool of line with it. After 50 minutes I was wondering how much longer the size 6 barbless hook would hold. After what seemed like a decade, the catfish was seen within 10 yards of the bank, maximum load was applied and the moggy neared the 50-inch net. There was no engulfing this beast; it was more of a slide and scoop to fold its body in the mesh.
As we unhooked it, the lake owner arrived to lend a helping hand. None of us possessed big enough scales to weigh the fish; therefore he suggested that we use his bathroom scales. A long shot but it just might work! The idea being to stand on the scales then again with the catfish in my arms, whereupon we could extract my body weight from the weight when I was cradling the fish! As I stood on the scales the crowd hoisted the monster into my arms, as the weight of the catfish was slowly released my legs started to buckle under the strain. The weight was read, I expected the helpers to immediately take the fish from my grasp. No such luck as they insisted on some happy snaps of a potemtial hernia and me! We settled for a weight of 87 lb, a personal best catfish caught on carp rods and methods.
Within half an hour of the monster moggy, line started to leave the baitrunner at a rapid rate of knots. This time I was connected to a rather large carp that also took some time to beat, the scales settled at 45 lb 12 oz the third 40 lb plus carp within several hours.
Due to fatigue I was silently hoping that I could now relax into the soothing properties of my sleeping bag and have a recuperating nap. I had just started to watch the carp crash on the back of my eyelids when the buzzer had me up and into another fish, it didn’t feel too big. The fish was only 20 yards from the bank when all hell broke loose and it turned to take over 150 yards of line from the reel, this was whilst applying maximum pressure. I stood in awe, there was nothing I could do but glare at the spool in disbelief, the only other animal I had ever hooked with such power was a cow, but that’s another story. At this point I could see the silver of the spool base and had no choice but to clamber into the boat and clamp down solid. The fish towed the 12-foot rigid boat to the top of the lake before turning and heading towards the fibreglass dinghy, causing me to franticly wind to regain control. 50 minutes had now passed; my body was trembling due to the catfish, the numerous big carp and now 50 minutes of this beast! I had no choice but to hand the rod over to Shep, I needed to regain energy. During the next hour we passed the rod between each other until the huge head of a mighty sturgeon named Mervin slid head first into the long mesh of the net. The battle had lasted close to 2 hours and the fish was landed in a swim 200 yards from where it had been hooked. Again the fish was too heavy to be weighed however the lake owner informed us that it had been stocked at 72 lbs! I wasn’t going to climb on the bathroom scales again! Now you can see why I named it fight night! Within several hours we had several mid 30s, 3 carp over 40 lbs, a moggy of 87 lbs and sturgeon of approximately 70 lbs!
Two days later Shep had a take from an open water rod, as he struck, 70 lb of shear muscle cleared the surface, Mervin the sturgeon had put in a second appearance. The fight was pretty similar to our first encounter, but not quite as long. After an hour and fifteen minute lakeside tour the head slide towards the bottom of the net, what a creature! Due to having caught him 48 hours previous I took the opportunity to get some day shots.
Carp fishing baits, tactics
My normal choice of crumbed maple 8 with a matching or pineapple enticed the majority of takes, this combination accounting for at least 100 carp in the last 8 weeks with approximately 35 of them being over 30 lbs and 6 x 40s. When conditions and feeding intensity improved loose feed was increased and when feeding activity reduced I experimented with pastes and some of the onsite carp pellets. It is a rounded pellet that I have not come across, they do look the business and do not dissolve in water but go soft and retain their shape. Similar in appearance to an 8 mm boilie, they are different and effective! They are introduced in large quantities during the winter months therefore a known food source to the carp.
Since the release of Korda hybrid I have used it in the majority of my fishing and believe it is a leap forward in rig length material. The flouro carbon stiff outer naturally forces the hook bait away from the lead and makes the lead and rigging less obtrusive. In addition to the press away effect an inch or two of the flouro can be peeled back to the braided inner. Quarter of an inch of this flouro is left to form a bend effect at the hook. This not only presents better hooking properties but also protects the carps mouth against sharp braid. I have seen cut mouths and flanks so many times that I no longer use fine braided hook lengths or braided mainline without employing a protective sheaf i.e. tubing.
Although bait boats are allowed I opted not to use one, preferring to cast the small PVA meshed parcels to showing fish or features. A scan of the entire lake with sonar early on in the session helped build a picture of the lakes topography in most areas. The idea being that if the carp moved I would be aware of the features in the area that they moved too, this eradicates the need to row over showing fish. Occasionally the onsite boat was used to place baits, but the time on the water was kept to a minimum, I have noticed that when boats are used in shallow water the fish often spook.
Carp Stock
In addition to the large amount of big carp present there has been recent stockings of 30/40 lb plus fish and Mervin the sturgeon. There are a number of catfish present with at least 2 of them surpassing the 100 lb mark.
There are few venues that can boast an average size of over 30 lbs, in fact I managed to subdue 16 fish over 30 lbs of which 4 were good 40 s to 45.12 oz and my average was calculated to be 36 lb!!
The lake record for both common and mirror carp is over 50 lbs. The lake record common is an immaculate fish and one I would love to cradle, during the last 2 days of the session I switched tactics to boilie’s over hemp in an attempt to focus on the large commons, but failed in the quest, maybe next time.
Fshing facilities
The food package is encompassed in the fly/provide package and must say that it is more suited to a high class restaurant! My mouth was watering every evening as I took my seat at 1745 hours for the coming delights. The starter was brilliant, the main meal was awesome and the pudding was difficult to consume, without doubt some of the best food I have ever tasted. I have always classed my good lady wife to be good in the kitchen (cooking I mean), but nothing in comparison to what is on offer at Brittany Mill Lakes.
The onsite toilets and showers are situated within a modernised block; they are spotless and suitable for the other half. Steve and family have achieved their aim of a carp fishing holiday venue rather than just a weeks fishing, I take my real tree cap off to them.
Fishing holiday Conclusion
As stated in the first article of this series I will endeavour to constructively criticize all venues, however constructive criticism for this lake/package is difficult to find. I will say that I came back a few kilograms heavier due to the gourmet food. Having informed Andrea of my criticism, she promptly informed me that she also provided for specific dietary requirements.
When Steve set about achieving his dream of purchasing lakes in France he asked himself one question, “ What would he like from a fishing holiday?” He then set about his aim with the all-inclusive fly and provide package. From an outsider’s point of view, the package sets precedence!
If the approach that I have outlined above is followed, the majority of anglers visiting this lake should catch, put the effort in and the rewards will come.
I wish to return to Brittany Mill lakes when the second lake is opened but in the mean time I am searching for other venues to visit, therefore if you believe your lake is worthy of inclusion in my approach to commercial venues series don’t hesitate to get in touch, but bare in mind if its not up to scratch I will say so in a constructive manner!Coming soon! Etang Neuilly, a down to earth approach on a Carp Fishing Holidays venue
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